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i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the most votes in 24hrs i will post a slow strip out of it untill im naked hope you vote for your favourite....
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the ...
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the most votes in 24hrs i will post a slow strip out of it untill im naked hope you vote for your favourite....
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the ...
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the most votes in 24hrs i will post a slow strip out of it untill im naked hope you vote for your favourite....
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the ...
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the most votes in 24hrs i will post a slow strip out of it untill im naked hope you vote for your favourite....
i am posting 5 pictures of me in a few of my outfits which ever gets the ...
I sucked off hubby before going out to a Halloween party (we got a lot of requests after we posted some pictures of this). He came on my face and favorite bat glasses (the rule was no cumming in my hair!). What do you think of this one? Thanks for all the
i sucked off hubby before going out to a halloween party (we got a lot of ...
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i took pictures of. i guest i am doing something right. there coming to me .now
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i ...
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i took pictures of. i guest i am doing something right. there coming to me .now
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i ...
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i took pictures of. i guest i am doing something right. there coming to me .now
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i ...
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i took pictures of. i guest i am doing something right. there coming to me .now
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i ...
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i took pictures of. i guest i am doing something right. there coming to me .now
this is the friend of a girl that i met through one of the other girls i ...
My BBW wife like to suck my cock and balls. Do You like my wife???
my bbw wife like to suck my cock and balls. do you like my wife???
Third of three pictures of me shooting a big line of cum from girlfriends titties all the way to her face.This photo is right after and still cumming on those big titties. We both love the way this feels and looks. What do you think?
third of three pictures of me shooting a big line of cum from girlfriends ...
Second of three pictures of me shooting a big line of cum from girlfriends titties all the way to her face. We both love the way this feels and looks. What do you think?
second of three pictures of me shooting a big line of cum from girlfriends ...
First of three pictures of me shooting a big line of cum from girlfriends titties all the way to her face. We both love the way this feels and looks. What do you think?
first of three pictures of me shooting a big line of cum from girlfriends ...
From a much longer video (about 28'). I was taking my time looking at pictures of lovely women, videos of couples and groups, and of women masturbating. When I cum, the woman you hear is having multiple orgasms with a rabbit vibrator. Delicious.
from a much longer video (about 28'). i was taking my time looking at ...
5 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style Silicone Sound in various stages of insertion. Is that one pretty pussy or what? Do you like the no hair look?  If you want to know how she stays so smooth without shaving just ask.
5 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style ...
4 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style Silicone Sound in various stages of insertion. Is that one pretty pussy or what? Do you like the no hair look?  If you want to know how she stays so smooth without shaving just ask.
4 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style ...
3 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style Silicone Sound in various stages of insertion. Is that one pretty pussy or what? Do you like the no hair look?  If you want to know how she stays so smooth without shaving just ask.
3 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style ...
2 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style Silicone Sound in various stages of insertion. Is that one pretty pussy or what? Do you like the no hair look?  If you want to know how she stays so smooth without shaving just ask.
2 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style ...
1 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style Silicone Sound in various stages of insertion. Is that one pretty pussy or what? Do you like the no hair look?  If you want to know how she stays so smooth without shaving just ask.
1 of 5 pictures of girlfriends wet, squirting pussy with a new style ...
I kinda love my own dick. I think I have a great one, so I take ALOT of pictures of it, this is one of my favorites.
i kinda love my own dick. i think i have a great one, so i take alot of ...
I told my little girl to get naked and to spread her legs. Then I called my friends who were waiting outside and they could take pictures of her - of course she had to suck off each of them - she got very horny doing all this
i told my little girl to get naked and to spread her legs. then i called ...
Fourth of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my balls. Earlier she put the hollow  Penis Plug in me and the Silicone Cock Ring around me. Felt so good that in just a minute I was cumming. Anybody want to lick/suck the cum out of the hollow Penis Plug?
fourth of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my balls. earlier she put ...
It is difficult to take pictures of oneself without a mirror, just trying to put the arm far away enough to get a right scene. I sent it to my girl , but she doesn´t seem to be very fan of this kind of man exhibition. That´s the reason I post them here.
it is difficult to take pictures of oneself without a mirror, just trying ...
@aCOUPLEinLOVE  You said you wanted guys to post pictures of themselves that were more than just dick pix.
This was from Valley of Fire, about an hour or so outside of Las Vegas
@acoupleinlove you said you wanted guys to post pictures of themselves ...
Some of my favorite photos are of beautiful women wearing jeans (see ilovedoggystyle1's profile for some very hot examples). In the forums, SensualSage recently expressed a similar interest in seeing pictures of men in jeans. (That's her on the computer.)
some of my favorite photos are of beautiful women wearing jeans (see ...
Some of my favorite photos are of beautiful women wearing jeans (see ilovedoggystyle1's profile for some very hot examples). In the forums, SensualSage recently expressed a similar interest in seeing pictures of men in jeans. (That's her on the computer.)
some of my favorite photos are of beautiful women wearing jeans (see ...
Some of my favorite photos are of beautiful women wearing jeans (see ilovedoggystyle1's profile for some very hot examples). In the forums, SensualSage recently expressed a similar interest in seeing pictures of men in jeans.
some of my favorite photos are of beautiful women wearing jeans (see ...
Every girl needs pictures of herself in her favorite bra, thinking of what she wants done to her. What am I thinking of in this one ;)
every girl needs pictures of herself in her favorite bra, thinking of what ...
Evidence of a happy ending to a lovely morning posing in a friend's yard while he took pictures of me nude and masturbating. I'm really sorry that he did not catch the actual moment of ejaculation. Looking forward to someone else catching that moment.
evidence of a happy ending to a lovely morning posing in a friend's yard ...
I have a couple pictures of this but here is the last minute of her worshipping my penis, then causing a huge eruption of cum. One shot touched her nose.  A couple squirts went high in the air. She LOVED it.
i have a couple pictures of this but here is the last minute of her ...
I saw two very sexy pictures of a lady in bed. I made a short slideshow of them and went away for som "private time". Here´s the result! Enjoy!
Please send me some photos and I can make a cum tribute video of you too...!
i saw two very sexy pictures of a lady in bed. i made a short slideshow of ...
In the first few months of inviting the new neighbor over to take pictures of me, he really took a lot of photos.  Having someone new spending hours looking at me so close makes for great foreplay.
in the first few months of inviting the new neighbor over to take pictures ...
My current girlfriend found nudes of my on my computer. She spent the night humiliating me and made me upload some of her work. She says I should upload the pictures of my too
my current girlfriend found nudes of my on my computer. she spent the ...
I bought this piece of underwear few years ago,. I turned me on so much after looking at videos of guys getting fucked with them, What you call them? "assless" briefs? please let me know if I can find more pictures of them. Got fucked while wearing it!
i bought this piece of underwear few years ago,. i turned me on so much ...
Whle finding the magic button, the knobs also do a nice job revealing a bit of glistening pink inner pussy softness. A gorgeous view of a woman who cannot stop from falling under the magic wand's spell as a camera takes pictures of her playing with it
whle finding the magic button, the knobs also do a nice job revealing a ...
Taking some photos of my friend who loves to show off... I wish I could just take pictures of her for the rest of time! I think I like this on in b&w better than colour.. what do you think?
taking some photos of my friend who loves to show off... i wish i could ...
Id like to introduce you to a personal friend of mine.  One of my favorite pictures of my dick yet
id like to introduce you to a personal friend of mine. one of my favorite ...
for all of you out there enjoying the pictures of my big balls... here they are, just released from a tight pair of underpants and tingling in anticipation
for all of you out there enjoying the pictures of my big balls... here ...
its very unusual to see my wife fucking another woman with a strap on...if you knew my wife & how submissive she naturally is you'd understand. As a matter of fact out of the more than 1000 pics I have of my wife this is only 1 of 2 with her doing the fuc
its very unusual to see my wife fucking another woman with a strap on...if ...
On September 21st of 2007,I took pictures of my self for another site`s,
Wet T Shirt contest.
on september 21st of 2007,i took pictures of my self for another ...
One night, I walked into the room where K was naked, playing solitair on the computer.  I had been taking pictures of her & she took a smoke break.  The lights were out & the room was dark.  I could tell she had her hand in her lap & kind of thought she m
one night, i walked into the room where k was naked, playing solitair on ...
A net friend Phil squirted on this picture of me...I love seeing guys to this to pictures of me
a net friend phil squirted on this picture of me...i love seeing guys to ...
After I came on the pictures of loverxx13.......full of cum
after i came on the pictures of loverxx13.......full of cum
A vid of me cumming on some pictures of loverxx13. She really made me cum hard on her horny pics.
a vid of me cumming on some pictures of loverxx13. she really made me cum ...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great blowjob...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great ...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great blowjob...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great ...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great blowjob...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great ...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great blowjob...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great ...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great blowjob...
just some pictures of me and nay befor she gives me one hell of a great ...
All the way in. Sorry about the quality of these pix. It's hard to take pictures of your own cunt. Especially when you're viciously fucking it with a 9" rubber cock...
all the way in. sorry about the quality of these pix. it's hard to take ...
It was a nice & warm & sunny day that I had Desided to get out in the Wooded area to take pictures of DEER. There's Plenty of them out there. Is there someplace where I can find a BIsexual womem?
it was a nice & warm & sunny day that i had desided to get out in ...
The last of these pictures of my surprise blowjob Sunday morning. This was right as I was cumming in her mouth. I love it!!
the last of these pictures of my surprise blowjob sunday morning. this was ...
this is a friend of mine who just started sending me naked pictures of her beautifully sexy body... she said if you all like what you see, then she will send me more and eventually will let me video us in action :)
this is a friend of mine who just started sending me naked pictures of her ...
You can't see it in the picture, but I was still eating our new ZOIG friends pussy when my husband could not stand it any more and took me from behind. This was his second load of the evening. He came the first time while taking pictures of me eating puss
you can't see it in the picture, but i was still eating our new zoig ...
A lot of girls complain that there are too many dicks and too few pictures of nice men teasing, so I'm trying to put my part to fill the void)
a lot of girls complain that there are too many dicks and too few pictures ...
some of you have requested pictures of my butt, here it is,i hope you like it, i love wearing these sexy panties.
some of you have requested pictures of my butt, here it is,i hope you like ...
I thought it would be cool for my man to take pictures of me playing with my pussy in front of all the Zoig onliners...I hope you were watching!
i thought it would be cool for my man to take pictures of me playing with ...
This is one of my favorite pictures of a fun night...what do you think?
this is one of my favorite pictures of a fun night...what do you think?
An girlfriend of mine started sending me pictures.  Of course I am going to share.
an girlfriend of mine started sending me pictures. of course i am going ...
An girlfriend of mine started sending me pictures.  Of course I am going to share.
an girlfriend of mine started sending me pictures. of course i am going ...
An girlfriend of mine started sending me pictures.  Of course I am going to share.
an girlfriend of mine started sending me pictures. of course i am going ...
i get so turned on taking pictures of my cock and making videos of me masturbating. i want other people to look at me and maybe also get turned on.
i get so turned on taking pictures of my cock and making videos of me ...
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her,
so here she is for your viewing pleasure
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her, so here she is for ...
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her,
so here she is for your viewing pleasure
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her, so here she is for ...
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her,
so here she is for your viewing pleasure
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her, so here she is for ...
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her,
so here she is for your viewing pleasure
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her, so here she is for ...
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her,
so here she is for your viewing pleasure
ive had a lot of requests for more pictures of her, so here she is for ...
Nearly ready for love. I feel so delicate when I have shaved myself between my legs. My hubby love to take a lot of pictures of me in the sofa and you will know it after a while. Hope all you guys will love it.
nearly ready for love. i feel so delicate when i have shaved myself ...
Since everyone seems to be enjoying the latest pictures of this  I thought I'd upload a video of us fucking.  Give me some votes and I'll dig up more!
since everyone seems to be enjoying the latest pictures of this i thought ...
Hammering away on a married woman I had met just hours earlier.  She runs the show over her cuckold hubby and she said she wanted to meet me.  I guess her definition of meet means fuck!  She made her cuckold hubby stay dressed and take pictures of us fuck
hammering away on a married woman i had met just hours earlier. she runs ...
no too many pictures of this dong, as of yet!
no too many pictures of this dong, as of yet!
Every has told me my penises small because I like takeing pictures of it soft amd smaller than a bic lighter, ill upload the pic of why they say my penis is small , what do you peoples think? could my penis honestly be smaller than 2.and a half inch bic l
every has told me my penises small because i like takeing pictures of it ...
This is my hot GF, i love her boobs, do you like them? I can upload much more pictures of her. I have the fantasy of sharing her with other men.
this is my hot gf, i love her boobs, do you like them? i can upload much ...
Just one of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on my balls until I cum. Do you guys enjoy having your balls bound like this and then being sucked on???
just one of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on ...
Second of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on my balls until I cum. Do you guys enjoy having your balls bound like this and then being sucked on???
second of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on ...
Third of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on my balls until I cum. Do you guys enjoy having your balls bound like this and then being sucked on???
third of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on my ...
Fourth out of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on my balls until I cum. Do you guys enjoy having your balls bound like this and then being sucked on???
fourth out of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking ...
Fifth out of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking on my balls until I cum. Do you guys enjoy having your balls bound like this and then being sucked on???
fifth out of five pictures of my nut sling on, and my girlfriend sucking ...
Hi, this was taken just before my hubby fucked me hard & cumin inside my hot pussy. I would love to show him some pictures of other men shooting their hot cum over this picture of me.
hi, this was taken just before my hubby fucked me hard & cumin inside ...
Some of you wanted to see more pictures of them hang, How is this? *Xo
some of you wanted to see more pictures of them hang, how is this? *xo
She send me a bunch of hot pictures of her. God i realy enjoyed them. Did you enjoy my video?
she send me a bunch of hot pictures of her. god i realy enjoyed them. did ...
she was so horny and wanted to fuck after she had a few , but of course we had to take pictures of her!
she was so horny and wanted to fuck after she had a few , but of course we ...
I like to take pictures wearing my wife's panties
i like to take pictures wearing my wife's panties
Looking right at you holding the camera while you take pictures of her licking the head of your dick. Shy? I don't think so.
looking right at you holding the camera while you take pictures of her ...
Sunbathing topless on holiday, what do you think of my nipple? Would love pictures of a penis on it or even better if covered in cum!
sunbathing topless on holiday, what do you think of my nipple? would love ...
First of a couple more stills from the same video as the last one. Here, pictures of ms. odyss3us have seriously affected me.
first of a couple more stills from the same video as the last one. here, ...
One of my favorite pictures of her. So fucking sexy
one of my favorite pictures of her. so fucking sexy
First of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my dick and balls. Earlier she put the hollow  Penis Plug in me and the Silicone Cock Ring around me. Felt so good that in just a minute I was cumming. Do you like having your balls sucked on like this?
first of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my dick and balls. earlier ...
Second of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my dick and balls. Earlier she put the hollow  Penis Plug in me and the Silicone Cock Ring around me. Felt so good that in just a minute I was cumming. Do you like having your balls sucked on???
second of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my dick and balls. earlier ...
Third of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my dick and balls. Earlier she put the hollow  Penis Plug in me and the Silicone Cock Ring around me. Felt so good that in just a minute I was cumming. Ever gotten blowjob  with Penis Plug in your dick?
third of 4 pictures of girlfriend sucking on my dick and balls. earlier ...
One of my all time favorite pictures of Gina.......what do you all think......let us know!
one of my all time favorite pictures of gina.......what do you all ...
I just really enjoy getting hard and taking pictures of my hard COCK for women to enjoy. Any of you ladies care to feel me go deep inside you?
i just really enjoy getting hard and taking pictures of my hard cock for ...
i should say i don't pose for my husband, he just takes lots and lots of pictures of me.  He has this one over his desk at work.  He says it is so much how he sees me....sexy, confident, happy, and his property.
i should say i don't pose for my husband, he just takes lots and lots of ...
some pictures of my woman when we got back together in july of 2014 she is fine
some pictures of my woman when we got back together in july of 2014 she is ...
My friend took pictures of me tied up before she spanked me with her belt.  She showed it to her friends and told me afterward.  I was wondering why one of her friends asked me if it hurt.  Like this let me know and I will do more with Sonja.
my friend took pictures of me tied up before she spanked me with her belt. ...
I've been getting a lot of requests for pictures of it hanging limp. Thanks for asking.
i've been getting a lot of requests for pictures of it hanging limp. ...
Series of 5 pictures of Girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until I cum. She stuffed my dick with a Penis Plug just before we got started. Felt amazing having her suck on me with the Plug in and cumming through the Plug.  Has anybody else tried this???
series of 5 pictures of girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until i cum. ...
Series of 5 pictures of Girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until I cum. She stuffed my dick with a Penis Plug just before we got started. Felt amazing having her suck on me with the Plug in and cumming through the Plug.  Has anybody else tried this???
series of 5 pictures of girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until i cum. ...
Series of 5 pictures of Girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until I cum. She stuffed my dick with a Penis Plug just before we got started. Felt amazing having her suck on me with the Plug in and cumming through the Plug.  Has anybody else tried this???
series of 5 pictures of girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until i cum. ...
Series of 5 pictures of Girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until I cum. She stuffed my dick with a Penis Plug just before we got started. Felt amazing having her suck on me with the Plug in and cumming through the Plug.  Has anybody else tried this???
series of 5 pictures of girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until i cum. ...
Series of 5 pictures of Girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until I cum. She stuffed my dick with a Penis Plug just before we got started. Felt amazing having her suck on me with the Plug in and cumming through the Plug.  Has anybody else tried this???
series of 5 pictures of girlfriend sucking my dick and balls until i cum. ...
5th of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on  And right after that cumshot I am squeezing her big tits and pulling on those hard nipples.
 while she is still sucking on me. Do you like having your balls sucked on like this??
5th of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on ...
4th of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on  And right after that cumshot I am squeezing her big tits and pulling on those hard nipples.
 while she is still sucking on me. Do you like having your balls sucked on like this??
4th of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on ...
3rd of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on  And right after that cumshot I am squeezing her big tits and pulling on those hard nipples.
 while she is still sucking on me. Do you like having your balls sucked on like this??
3rd of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on ...
2nd of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on  And right after that cumshot I am squeezing her big tits and pulling on those hard nipples.
 while she is still sucking on me. Do you like having your balls sucked on like this??
2nd of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on ...
1st of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on  And right after that cumshot I am squeezing her big tits and pulling on those hard nipples.
 while she is still sucking on me. Do you like having your balls sucked on like this??
1st of 5 pictures of my girlfriend sucking on my balls and getting cum on ...
My husband left his phone unlocked and I found a bunch of pictures of me.
my husband left his phone unlocked and i found a bunch of pictures of me.
Just had to take a few pictures as my wife played with her lovely big boobs
just had to take a few pictures as my wife played with her lovely big ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My friend likes to pose nude for me. She knows I jerk off to these. I have a lot of pictures of her and her big tits. She wants to have a threesome with two big black cocks, she said I could be the cameraman. Let's hope
my friend likes to pose nude for me. she knows i jerk off to these. i have ...
My girlfriend can buy4what I thought would be some XXX.However what  it turned out 2Bwas her having  me strip naked in front of her and her friends and taking pictures of myself  to post online or she was going to show pics  to all my friends
my girlfriend can buy4what i thought would be some xxx.however what it ...